Форум
оказывается он был у истоков русской швейцарии и знал Сандера)))
https://www.swissinfo.ch/rus/culture/%d0%bc%d0%b5%d0%b4%d0%b8%d0%b0-%d0%bb%d0%b0%d0%bd%d0%b4%d1%88%d0%b0%d1%84%d1%82_%d0%b6%d1%83%d1%80%d0%bd%d0%b0%d0%bb%d1%83-%d1%80%d1%83%d1%81%d1%81%d0%ba%d0%b0%d1%8f-%d1%88%d0%b2%d0%b5%d0%b9%d1%86%d0%b0%d1%80%d0%b8%d1%8f-%d0%b8%d1%81%d0%bf%d0%be%d0%bb%d0%bd%d0%b8%d0%bb%d0%be%d1%81%d1%8c-15-%d0%bb%d0%b5%d1%82/45323052
https://www.swissinfo.ch/rus/culture/%d0%bc%d0%b5%d0%b4%d0%b8%d0%b0-%d0%bb%d0%b0%d0%bd%d0%b4%d1%88%d0%b0%d1%84%d1%82_%d0%b6%d1%83%d1%80%d0%bd%d0%b0%d0%bb%d1%83-%d1%80%d1%83%d1%81%d1%81%d0%ba%d0%b0%d1%8f-%d1%88%d0%b2%d0%b5%d0%b9%d1%86%d0%b0%d1%80%d0%b8%d1%8f-%d0%b8%d1%81%d0%bf%d0%be%d0%bb%d0%bd%d0%b8%d0%bb%d0%be%d1%81%d1%8c-15-%d0%bb%d0%b5%d1%82/45323052
